Point2Lay Final Review
29th November 2011
Sergeant Lucian – Reviews Point2Lay
Hi Bloggers,
The Point2Lay team suspended the review on 14th October. They promised to release a new version of the software soon, but it is over a month now and a final conclusion must be made.
The Point2Lay software spots false favourites in horse racing win markets based on TFQR (Tax Free Quid Ratings). Point2Lay runs, scans, rates all UK races. The selections will be highlighted in RED.
The program does all the job for the user, so it isn’t necessary to insert any data. There is no need to study data- horse race stats, trainer, jockey, etc, etc. The software does all that for the user.
Betting bot is included. The bot, by default, will not place lay bets on odds over 5.0 but this option can be changed by the user to any desired odds. In order to work smoothly the software needs a good internet connection, a paid Racing Post account (£2 per week) and of course a Betfair account. Point2Lay is free for the first 15 days and then £49.99 every 3 months. Alternatively for one month the price is £24.99.
Now let’s take a look at the results after 30 days of review.
Point2Lay on day 30.
Initial bank – 1000 points and 100 point bet.
Running bank after day 30 = 476.37 points – loss 523.63 points
The numbers show clearly that this software can be reverted to being a back bot, as I’ve suggested. As a lay bot clearly it has FAILED, because on 30 days over half bank is gone.
Now here are results on backing the Point2Lay selections.
Level stakes 100 points on bet.
| Date | Meeting | Time | Selection | Odds | Stake | Result | P/L | Running Total |
| 15th Sep | Ayr | 1.50 | Farang Kondiew | 2.19 | 100.00 | LOSS | 119.00 | 1,119.00 |
| 15th Sep | List | 3.25 | Darasal Wane | 4.48 | 100.00 | LOSS | 348.00 | 1,467.00 |
| 15th Sep | List | 4.25 | Son Amix | 2.00 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 1,367.00 |
| 15th Sep | Ponte | 4.30 | Petella | 4.36 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 1,267.00 |
| 16th Sep | Ayr | 2.10 | Strictly Silver | 3.63 | 100.00 | LOSS | 263.00 | 1,530.00 |
| 18th Sep | Uttox | 3.50 | Taratata Sivola | 4.87 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 1,430.00 |
| 18th Sep | Ham | 4.10 | Hills Of Dakota | 4.20 | 100.00 | LOSS | 320.00 | 1,750.00 |
| 21st Sep | Perth | 3.00 | Fools Wildcat | 3.93 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 1,650.00 |
| 21st Sep | Good | 4.20 | Billy Buttons | 3.94 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 1,550.00 |
| 21st Sep | DownP | 4.30 | Rockyaboya | 4.72 | 100.00 | LOSS | 372.00 | 1,922.00 |
| 21st Sep | Redc | 5.10 | Dance For Julie | 3.91 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 1,822.00 |
| 22nd Sep | Ponte | 3.05 | Rythmic | 3.32 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 1,722.00 |
| 24th Sep | GowP | 1.55 | Glor Na Mara | 2.87 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 1,622.00 |
| 24th Sep | Newm | 3.10 | Sahpresa | 2.76 | 100.00 | LOSS | 176.00 | 1,798.00 |
| 24th Sep | Chest | 5.20 | Pearl Blue | 3.75 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 1,698.00 |
| 25th Sep | Clon | 2.25 | Whatever It Takes | 3.53 | 100.00 | LOSS | 253.00 | 1,951.00 |
| 26th Sep | Ham | 3.10 | Smart Step | 3.99 | 100.00 | LOSS | 299.00 | 2,250.00 |
| 28th Sep | Salis | 3.00 | Rock The Stars | 4.70 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 2,150.00 |
| 29th Sep | Wolv | 2.00 | Amoure Medici | 4.66 | 100.00 | LOSS | 366.00 | 2,516.00 |
| 29th Sep | Wolv | 4.00 | Mount Hollow | 4.82 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 2,416.00 |
| 29th Sep | Kemp | 7.40 | Maloof | 3.35 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 2,316.00 |
| 30th Sep | Ascot | 4.40 | Cunning Act | 3.75 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 2,216.00 |
| 30th Sep | Dund | 8.30 | Licence To Till | 4.91 | 100.00 | LOSS | 391.00 | 2,607.00 |
| 1st Oct | Ascot | 5.00 | Dubai Queen | 4.46 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 2,507.00 |
| 4th Oct | Catt | 3.00 | Come On Dave | 4.20 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 2,407.00 |
| 4th Oct | Sthl | 3.20 | Illustration | 4.20 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 2,307.00 |
| 4th Oct | Catt | 4.30 | Painted Tail | 4.62 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 2,207.00 |
| 4th Oct | Sthl | 5.20 | Beechcraft Baron | 2.65 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 2,107.00 |
| 6th Oct | Wolv | 7.20 | Ravi River | 3.90 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 2,007.00 |
| 8th Oct | York | 1.50 | Mickdaam | 3.14 | 100.00 | LOSS | 214.00 | 2,221.00 |
| 8th Oct | Wolv | 6.00 | Baltic Flyer | 3.98 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 2,121.00 |
| 8th Oct | Wolv | 8.30 | Queen Grace | 4.73 | 100.00 | LOSS | 373.00 | 2,494.00 |
| 12th Oct | Ling | 2.00 | Good Morning Star | 3.30 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 2,394.00 |
| 13th Oct | Brig | 4.00 | Pearl Opera | 4.20 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 2,294.00 |
| 13th Oct | Punch | 4.45 | Bundle Of Fun | 2.30 | 100.00 | WIN | -100.00 | 2,194.00 |
| 14th Oct | Redc | 2.35 | Daddy Warbucks | 3.20 | 100.00 | LOSS | 220.00 | 2,414.00 |
| 14th Oct | Chelt | 3.20 | Paint The Clouds | 2.95 | 100.00 | LOSS | 295.00 | 2,709.00 |
ROI in this case is over 46% and a bank gain of over 1700 points.
Second back method 123 and keep 3 until the profit is reached over the level when the increase start.
| Date | Meeting | Time | Selection | Odds | Stake | Result | P/L | Running Total |
| 15th Sep | Ayr | 1.50 | Farang Kondiew | 2.19 | 100.00 | 1 | 113.05 | 1,113.05 |
| 15th Sep | List | 3.25 | Darasal Wane | 4.48 | 100.00 | 1 | 330.60 | 1,443.65 |
| 15th Sep | List | 4.25 | Son Amix | 2.00 | 100.00 | 0 | -100.00 | 1,343.65 |
| 15th Sep | Ponte | 4.30 | Petella | 4.36 | 200.00 | 0 | -200.00 | 1,143.65 |
| 16th Sep | Ayr | 2.10 | Strictly Silver | 3.63 | 300.00 | 1 | 749.55 | 1,893.20 |
| 18th Sep | Uttox | 3.50 | Taratata Sivola | 4.87 | 100.00 | 0 | -100.00 | 1,793.20 |
| 18th Sep | Ham | 4.10 | Hills Of Dakota | 4.20 | 200.00 | 1 | 608.00 | 2,401.20 |
| 21st Sep | Perth | 3.00 | Fools Wildcat | 3.93 | 100.00 | 0 | -100.00 | 2,301.20 |
| 21st Sep | Good | 4.20 | Billy Buttons | 3.94 | 200.00 | 0 | -200.00 | 2,101.20 |
| 21st Sep | DownP | 4.30 | Rockyaboya | 4.72 | 300.00 | 1 | 1,060.20 | 3,161.40 |
| 21st Sep | Redc | 5.10 | Dance For Julie | 3.91 | 100.00 | 0 | -100.00 | 3,061.40 |
| 22nd Sep | Ponte | 3.05 | Rythmic | 3.32 | 200.00 | 0 | -200.00 | 2,861.40 |
| 24th Sep | GowP | 1.55 | Glor Na Mara | 2.87 | 300.00 | 0 | -300.00 | 2,561.40 |
| 24th Sep | Newm | 3.10 | Sahpresa | 2.76 | 300.00 | 1 | 501.60 | 3,063.00 |
| 24th Sep | Chest | 5.20 | Pearl Blue | 3.75 | 300.00 | 0 | -300.00 | 2,763.00 |
| 25th Sep | Clon | 2.25 | Whatever It Takes | 3.53 | 300.00 | 1 | 721.05 | 3,484.05 |
| 26th Sep | Ham | 3.10 | Smart Step | 3.99 | 100.00 | 1 | 284.05 | 3,768.10 |
| 28th Sep | Salis | 3.00 | Rock The Stars | 4.70 | 100.00 | 0 | -100.00 | 3,668.10 |
| 29th Sep | Wolv | 2.00 | Amoure Medici | 4.66 | 200.00 | 1 | 695.40 | 4,363.50 |
| 29th Sep | Wolv | 4.00 | Mount Hollow | 4.82 | 100.00 | 0 | -100.00 | 4,263.50 |
| 29th Sep | Kemp | 7.40 | Maloof | 3.35 | 200.00 | 0 | -200.00 | 4,063.50 |
| 30th Sep | Ascot | 4.40 | Cunning Act | 3.75 | 300.00 | 0 | -300.00 | 3,763.50 |
| 30th Sep | Dund | 8.30 | Licence To Till | 4.91 | 300.00 | 1 | 1,114.35 | 4,877.85 |
| 1st Oct | Ascot | 5.00 | Dubai Queen | 4.46 | 100.00 | 0 | -100.00 | 4,777.85 |
| 4th Oct | Catt | 3.00 | Come On Dave | 4.20 | 200.00 | 0 | -200.00 | 4,577.85 |
| 4th Oct | Sthl | 3.20 | Illustration | 4.20 | 300.00 | 0 | -300.00 | 4,277.85 |
| 4th Oct | Catt | 4.30 | Painted Tail | 4.62 | 300.00 | 0 | -300.00 | 3,977.85 |
| 4th Oct | Sthl | 5.20 | Beechcraft Baron | 2.65 | 300.00 | 0 | -300.00 | 3,677.85 |
| 6th Oct | Wolv | 7.20 | Ravi River | 3.90 | 300.00 | 0 | -300.00 | 3,377.85 |
| 8th Oct | York | 1.50 | Mickdaam | 3.14 | 300.00 | 1 | 609.90 | 3,987.75 |
| 8th Oct | Wolv | 6.00 | Baltic Flyer | 3.98 | 300.00 | 0 | -300.00 | 3,687.75 |
| 8th Oct | Wolv | 8.30 | Queen Grace | 4.73 | 300.00 | 1 | 1,063.05 | 4,750.80 |
| 12th Oct | Ling | 2.00 | Good Morning Star | 3.30 | 300.00 | 0 | -300.00 | 4,450.80 |
| 13th Oct | Brig | 4.00 | Pearl Opera | 4.20 | 300.00 | 0 | -300.00 | 4,150.80 |
| 13th Oct | Punch | 4.45 | Bundle Of Fun | 2.30 | 300.00 | 0 | -300.00 | 3,850.80 |
| 14th Oct | Redc | 2.35 | Daddy Warbucks | 3.20 | 300.00 | 1 | 627.00 | 4,477.80 |
| 14th Oct | Chelt | 3.20 | Paint The Clouds | 2.95 | 300.00 | 1 | 555.75 | 5,033.55 |
In this case ROI is over 48% but look at the bank after 30 days period – over 4000 point profit all this with a hit rate of 38%.
I’ve done this as a demonstration.
In this form as a lay system, and after the 30 days review it is in the failed category.
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Regards,
Sgt Lucian – Reviews Point2Lay
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